Karl Rove, former Deputy Chief of Staff to president George W. Bush, expresses the concern on the Republican side on U.S. president Obama's thinking about Islamic terrorism expressed in recent speeches and interviews. Obama told CNN interviewer Zakaria that it was wrong to suggest that terrorist networks were "an existential threat to the U.S. or the world order." Earlier references to the Islamic State as a "javvee team" in 2014 show the U.S. president unable to take the situation seriously. Rove questions the president's claim that "we ended two wars in a responsible way." The situation in Iraq especially has seen significant reversal since Bush's second term.