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Deep labor problems that have plagued Detroit automakers throughout the years since the 1930 labor-management strife. The labor advantages enjoyed by the Japanese and the Germans after postwar compact between labor and management in Japan and Germany, that was continued in plants in the US in locations with no labor history. The higher executive compensation and privileges of management in the American management model that did not exist in the Japanese and German models that created another level of distrust of management. The recovery staged by Chrysler in the 1980's withthe minivan and by Ford with new models. The recovery again in the 1990's by Ford and GM with the sports utility vehicle and pickup trucks. And the collapse Chrysler, GM and Ford face today, facing bankruptcy or government bailout on a large scale as rising oil prices and the need for conservation lead to a collapse of the sports utility and pickup market and shift to fuel efficient passenger cars.

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Discussion inthe President's inner circle of economic advisors of issues like the nationalization of banks, the rescue of Chrysler, and other issues. This circle includes political advisors Axelrod and Rahm, Orszag Budget Director, Christina Romer of the Council of Economic Advisors, Geithner at Treasury, Summers as White House advisor, Austan Goolsbee who was the campaign economic advisor.

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Are bubble type incentives inflating the size of the U.S. auto market in 2012-2013 as happened in the past decade. This could hurt future sales. Japanese automakers have sharply increased incentives to make a come back after the tsunami and earhtquake restricted supplies. U.S. automakers are reluctant to go further down the incentives route that hurt them in the past decade. The result is higher inventories for Detroit automakers, another undesirable result. General Motors had 5 months of Malibu supply at dealers in Nov. 2012 at the current sales rate, Ford 4 months of Fiesta subcompact inventory and 73 days of total inventory overall, Chrysler 6 months of 2013 Dodge Dart inventory. GM has 3 months of Chevy Cruze inventory, and 138 days of Chevy Silverado pickup truck inventory. GM decided to idle one of two plants making the Cruze. In contrast Toyota has 2 months inventory for the Camry and Corolla. The largest incentives in the U.S. market are from Nissan, a 55% jump to average $4,273 in Nov. 2012 from $2,764 in Jan 2012. Honda increased incentives to average $2,428 from $1,978 in Feb. 2012, a 23% increase. Toyota up to average $2,075 in Nov 2012 from $1717 in Jan. 2012, a 21% increase, according to TrueCar.com, with zero percent interest rates not counted in these numbers. Ford offers $2895 off its 2013 Focus sedan, which has 2 months inventory. General Motors offers between $2900 and $3500 in average incentives , according to TrueCar.com....

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The difficulties Cerberus is having selling $4 billion of the debt it incurred in buying Chrysler and its pullout of the United Rentals deal are signs that private equity deals are fraying. The credit crunch looks like its going to get a lot worse. And sales of cars are expected to decline from the present 16 million for the year to 15.5 according to Jerry York a former GM board member, and 14.5-15.0 million according to John Stallkamp a former Chrysler president. There is a difficult year ahead for the auto companies and for the economy in general.

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The sale of $4 billion in loans connected to Cerberus's acquisition of Chrysler has been postponed because of sluggish credit market conditions and shortage of buyers.

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The government bailout of Fannie and Freddie was expected to cost hundreds of billions of dollars according to some estimates during the financial crisis in 2008-2009. The costs peaked at $187 billion in 2011. The transfer of $59.4 billion by Fannie Mae to the U.S. Treasury in 2013 lowers the net cost to $60.5 billion. The net cost of the Troubled Asset Relief Program or TARP has decreased to less than $23 billion. At one point the cost of TARP reached $419 billion for the U.S. Treasury. The government sold the last of its shares in private insurance company AIG and made $22.7 billion in gains. Treasury and Fed loaned $182 billion to AIG and at one point owned 90% of the company. Chrysler exited the TARP bailout program in 2011 at a net cost to the U.S. government of $1.2 billion. So far in May 2013 the GM bailout cost $19.6 billion, this would come down to about $11.82 billion if the U.S. government sold its GM shares at the price in May 2013. The U.S. Federal Reserve says it has not lost money in any of its emergency lending facilities, even though some loans are outstanding. The FDIC says its fees from rescue programs exceed losses....

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June unemployment numbers will jump say experts at IHS Insight as GM and Chrysler downsize even more to become smaller companies with even less market share. This will reflect closing Pontiac and sale or closing of the other GM brands Saturn, Saab, and Hummer. It will reflect closing of more dealerships of GM and Chrysler. THis might be offset by a pickup in sales if something like the European trading clunkers for new cars program takes off in the USA. But with the US customers more in debt and with rising job losses, the pattern may be different in the US. It may only offer a small boost in sales. Manufacturing still matters in a recovery. In 1980 manufacturing was 20% of America's output, now it is 11.5% says Mark Zandl of Moody's Economy.com. Manufacturing, he says, has a bigger impact than its size suggests, because it responds quickly. As sales resume workers are called back to their jobs. The sharp V shaped recoveries in the early 80's reflected the rapid response of manufacturing. After the 1980's both the declines and the recoveries were shallow in 1990-1991 and 2001. Now with GM and Chrysler shrinking further under the government plan to fix these companies, and taking the supplier impact, the rebound leg of the V is missing. The kick from the Big Three and their suppliers is missing, says Nigel Gault of IHS Insight. Of the 5.7 million jobs lost from Jan 2008 to June 2009, 1.6 million were in manufacturing and 289,000 were in motor vehicles, split almost evenly between assemblers and supplier networks....

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Ford and Hyundai are the bright spots as industry sales drop to aseasonally adjusted rate of 9.2 million vehicles accoring to Autodata. Ford sales declined only by 5% and Hyundai increased by27%. GM down 45% and Chrysler down 42.1%.Dealerships had a 29 day supply of cars and trucks at the end of August lowest since at least 1975 according to WardsAuto.com.

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How the economic fallout from the mortgage lending business is affecting Cerberus new owner of Chrysler. GMAC in which Feinberg's Cerberus has a 51% stake has losses of $2.3 billion in the 3rd quarter at ResCap, home lending unit of GMAC. Aegis Mortgage corporation a firm owned by Cerberus filed for bankruptcy protection in August. As a result of all this fallout Cerberus is taking a hard look at all its committments and is pulling out of its committment to acquire United Rentals. And the sale of $4 billion in loans connected with Cerberus deal for Chrysler has been postponed because of lack of interest in credit markets.