On the 30th anniversary of this Interview with Norman Borlaug, of Iowa, Minnesota and Texas, with Mary Gray Davidson for Common Ground, a point of reflection of where we were including China and India, Africa, where we are now in 2026, and where we are headed if we have the right bearings. What has been accomplished under Deng and successors to Xi Jinping, under Nehru and successors to Modi, and in different parts of Africa, the path ahead, and the challenges in the deindustrialization of the US and Europe that is being reversed day by day. Borlaug never lost his faith in education. "Some of the greatest satisfactions I've had is to see little boys-and girls too, for that matter-that have dropped out of school in the third grade. They've got bright, shiny eyes. You give them a job scaring the birds out of your plots. And together with your colleagues you say, "Let's put a little few pennies together and get that little person in school and get them back." And they go through primary school. And then get them into high school You may have to move them to another village because there's no school like that. And I've seen some of them become Ph.D.s; some of the best scientists. And Master Technicians. They're tremendous. There's lots of unpolished stones out there that never got a chance. And a little stimulation. You have to identify them. You can't do that all at the same, we don't have enough pennies to start them all up. But if that happens to some of these, other kids start saying, "Look what happened to that person." That's all part of the game. You've got to reach for the star. You'll never get the star, or never reach it, but if you stretch yourself enough, I always tell the students, you'll get some stardust on your hands. And if that happens you'll be surprised what happens in your ability to do something for yourself, your family, the community, the state, the nation, and the world." ...